Speaker 1: 0:03

Welcome to Hormone Heroes, where I share testimonials from real people who have experienced bioidentical hormone therapy. Men and women share the symptoms they have experienced and the difference proper hormone replacement has made. I'm your host, Dr Kelly Hopkins, and I have been in the functional medicine space for over 30 years, with a focus on hormones for 20 years. Please keep in mind this podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Please consult with your physician or practitioner for medical advice. Let's get started with today's guest. Hello and welcome to the podcast Today.

Speaker 1: 0:45

I'm very excited with who we have on the podcast today. It's Dr Carl Rothschild. He lives in Bel Air, California, and he is a chiropractor by training and he's going to tell us today about red light therapy, particularly trifecta light, about red light therapy, particularly trifecta light, and that's trifectalightcom. I know red light therapy is getting a lot of interest and there might be a lot of people that have a slight knowledge of it, but today we're going to deep dive into why it works and what all it affects, and I'm very excited to have you, Dr Carl. So thank you.

Speaker 2: 1:26

I'm always thrilled to have an opportunity to educate people about something that I think they're going to find unbelievably important. It's critical. Listen. I believe that what makes the world go round is passion and belief, and if you're involved in business and you have no belief in what you're doing, you aren't going to go very far. So I'm going to explain to you why.

Speaker 2: 1:53

So it all started in 1972 for me. I was a junior at Stony Brook University. It was a very good school out in Long Island, new York, and I was trying to decide what I wanted to do with my life at a young age, because, you know, I was a. To decide what I wanted to do with my life at a young age because, you know, I was a good student, I was going in the right direction as far as pre-med and all that. But it was also a little bit rebellious. And I got introduced to chiropractic and it worked for me, and I'll tell you how it worked. I called a lot of chiropractors all over the country and I, with every call, every one of those chiropractors was thrilled to be a chiropractor. That's what I wanted. I wanted something that was worthwhile, that was going to help people. I'm one of the. You know there are two kinds of people one who gets their kicks out of helping others. This is not why I'm better than you or what. It's nothing to do with it. I really genuinely like to help people and I'd like to get that feedback. You know what Grateful for that. I like that. So what I wanted to do is help as many people as possible without putting money at the forefront. I don't mind making money, but if I was just going in a direction to make money, that would not satisfy me. So I got involved with chiropractic in 1978. I became a chiropractor and I've been one ever since. I'm not seeing patients of late because I'm just too busy with everything and, quite frankly, I'm 73 years old and my joints are tired, and so then you know I was doing very well.

Speaker 2: 3:20

And 20 years into my practice I was introduced to a gentleman, a medical doctor out of USC who was also a professor and an orthopedic surgeon, and he, his name was Chadwick Smith and he's the one that got red light therapy started, really in the United States. He got the FDA clearance of all things. He did it with Corporeal Tunnel, with the General Motors study that he did, and I knew him and we were at a dinner one time and he hands me what looks like a flashlight and he said come on with me, I want you to help me save the world. And he hands me this flashlight-looking thing and I take it and I, you know, I thought he was nuts, absolutely crazy, are you nuts? But I didn't say that to him, but I tried it. We used it in our practice and within a month we realized that this was not a joke and that exactly we can make some really nice changes in people's lives. And so I started going to my patients and say, look, the one thing we know is that you couldn't hurt anybody with this, that's for sure. They didn't think how exactly it worked, but they knew you couldn't get hurt. So let's try it.

Speaker 2: 4:27

So I would go to my patients and say you know, you've been with me for a while now and we've treated you for musculoskeletal, kind of chiropractic kind of things. What else you got? So this lady says I have gum disease. I helped her gum disease. This guy said he had kidney problems, helped his kidney problems, and it just went on and on with different musculoskeletal issues but other things that you wouldn't normally think that I would be able to help and I was helping them and I loved it, I mean, and that was a class one device, the first one, and then we got to a class two, three and then finally with a class four device which is very powerful, with even better results, and then about 14, give or take years ago, it was discovered that there was an element of light that I was not using that helped with fat loss. Interesting, and I don't know if you people out there realize, but there's almost nothing more popular than fat loss in this country and if you're advertising that you can save the world from some disease versus I can help you lose fat, the marketing companies will tell you this is where the money's at, this is where the money's at. So when I realized that we could help people with fat loss, I started manufacturing. That's about 14 years ago, and we first wanted to integrate this light that I didn't ever use before because it wasn't as healing. But it's red light, it's not any other color, it's red. A red has some healing qualities, but it's the only thing that has to do with this fat loss.

Speaker 2: 5:58

And in a little while I'm going to go over the mechanism of how that works, mechanism of how that works, the near infrared. In fact, let me talk about the word infrared, so the word infrared. There's no such word as just infrared. It's either far infrared or near infrared. And far infrared is a fancy way of getting heat. It's hot and near infrared is cold, and that's why 20 something years ago, 27 years ago, they called it cold laser or cold therapy or low level laser therapy or low level therapy, whatever.

Speaker 2: 6:32

And it's about not generating heat. So heat is the absolute enemy and I'm going to repeat this later again Heat is the enemy. So what makes equipment better? What you want is the best medical grade lights you can have that don't get hot, and that's where the money is. That's where the action is, and 90 something percent of the equipment that's out there is knockoff Chinese junk that gets hot, doesn't work. Well, why is heat the enemy? Heat dilates blood vessels, brings more fluid to the surface and that blocks the penetration of the line. We want to work under the radar so that the body doesn't even know this is happening While we're putting our lights on people. We don't want the body to react. That's how you get deeper penetration and much better results. But that's really money is that takes more, is more involved with getting lights that are highly powerful without being hot.

Speaker 1: 7:33

So a good rule of thumb might be if someone's getting something off the Internet and if the red light therapy is hot, that's a good indication that they don't have a good quality product Right is hot, that's a good indication that they don't have a good quality product right.

Speaker 2: 7:45

Almost none of the stuff that you can get off of the internet is medical grade. Okay, there's only a couple of beds out there, devices out there that are. Now I'm not talking about lasers, I'm talking about now. I'm kind of skipping around, so let me get back to this and I wanted to give you the idea that 14 years ago I got involved with manufacturing. I was involved with lasers and pads and panels and stuff that covered parts of the body. It was a state of the art and it was working very nicely, including the weight loss.

Speaker 2: 8:17

We were the first ones to integrate red and near-infrared together Red for the fat loss and some healing and and near for red for the really nitty gritty healing. I mean, that's what it's about. Near for red doesn't really do much at all for fat loss. So if you only had near for red, which I had for many years, we never saw fat loss. It was another company that was red, only that mistakenly, were using red for healing. Another company that was red, only that mistakenly, were using red for healing. They were wrong, but they're the ones that discovered that there was a fat loss component here. So when we integrate it, you get fat loss and the nephrored is about tightening the skin, so you're not going to see sagging skin or stretch marks or anything like that, as we're losing fat. So we'll talk about fat loss in a moment and how the mechanism works. But I just wanted you to know what made me jump on the bandwagon and start getting involved with manufacturing this equipment. And then the next phase was about when COVID first hit. Our providers were contacting us and saying look, can we come up with something so they don't have to close down, that would allow them to treat somebody but no physical contact? And so we developed the bed. And I don't know if people can see this, this is version model five over the years that we've developed. But our first model came out years ago just as a substitute for what we were creating up to that point, which again were smaller apparatus, smaller devices that covered parts of the body. And within a month of us having shipped out the first series of beds, we were getting outrageous kind of feedback Now.

Speaker 2: 9:55

So I'm going to take a pause here and tell you I'm not going to make any claims. What I'm going to do is report the news. I'm going to tell you what I know, what I hear, and again I'm going to also is report the news. I'm going to tell you what I know, what I hear, and again I'm going to also show you how you can prove this to yourself, that this really works. But I can't make claims. I can't tell you that I can cure the planet. I can't tell you that I'm a kidney expert, even though we've seen red light therapy help kidney problems, liver problems, thyroid problems, eye problems, mental problems, you name it. If it's a tissue in the body, we've seen great results with that Interesting. I wanted to make sure that I was clear with that. I'm not telling you I'm a kidney expert. I'm telling you that I give a lot of stuff about it to help you to make a decision of what you want to do in your life. And I want to tell you that in this country and the reason why some people are upset with the way medicine is handled in this country is that there's too much money in it for the sick.

Speaker 2: 10:56

You see, healthy people don't generate an income for anybody. If you're healthy, who's going to get rich off of you? Nobody, but if we can get you as sick as possible, we going to get rich off of you? Nobody, but if we can get you as sick as possible, we can get very wealthy off of that. Sure, and I don't want to sound too negative, but that's basically what it's about Money versus you know. So if I go to a surgeon and say, hey, buddy, don't do the surgery, where you can make tens of thousands of dollars, why don't you not do the surgery? Come on over here and use red light therapy, and it just doesn't work Right. Especially surgeons, they don't get behind this a lot Because they get the money from their surgeries.

Speaker 1: 11:37

That's why it's not in every doctor's office and hospital, the reason you just stated is Well.

Speaker 2: 11:46

The hospitals in particular look at this as a revenue killer. It would kill their revenue. Yeah, I was at a meeting and a relatively famous bodybuilder his name is Mike Torsha and if you were to look him up, he's now a big wheel in the Maha program Make America Healthy Again, and it's wonderful. He's now a big wheel in the Maha program Make America Healthy Again, and it's wonderful. He's helping the military to become more health oriented and so hopefully my company is going to be playing a role in that. That's an aside. But I'm talking to Mike and he starts telling me about his best friend, frank. Now, frank needed surgery for his shoulder and back, but after just a few uses of a bed a red light bed he doesn't need the surgery. And he calls up the orthopedist and says I don't need this surgery. Well, it turns out he was using one of, he was going to one of our offices and this guy, frank, is the brother of one of the most famous icon in the world in the entertainment industry. I can't mention names, but I'm just telling you that I get this kind of feedback on a daily basis of the kind of unbelievable successes that we're seeing with people with red light therapy. Again, when I say red light therapy, I do want to tell you that that's the combination of red and near infrared, never just red and it's pretty much never near infrared only. It's always that integration. So when I say red light therapy, I'm talking about the integration of both. So there I am shipping out this first series of beds and I want to tell you a story about a gentleman who was dying Now.

Speaker 2: 13:19

This gentleman, 12, 13, something years ago, was starting to have heart attacks regularly and I had never heard of this before. Now, 13, let's say years ago, he was dying and that had been going on for a while. His congestive heart failure really was getting worse and worse until he was having monthly, if not twice a month, then three times a month. By the time we met him, 12 years down the road, he was having him twice a week. And what they had done 12, 13 years ago, they had implanted a defibrillator into his chest. So every time he died you know what a defibrillator is, when they say, ok, clear, and they go, you know, electrocute the person to bring their heart back Well, that's what is happening to him hundreds of times.

Speaker 2: 14:07

So what I do is I talk to an audience. I say look, what would you do if someone called you up and said look, I don't know if you can help me, but I'm having a heart attack once, if not twice, a week. What could you do for me? So if you're a chiropractor, like I was and I still am would I adjust them differently? If I was an acupuncturist, would I throw a few extra needles in there. I mean, what would anyone do? No one had an answer for that, including the medical profession.

Speaker 2: 14:30

That was basically watching him die once a week, twice a week that he was having heart attacks. Then that defibrillator would zap him back to life on. Him was dying, his energy was gone, he couldn't walk 10 steps. He used to be an athlete and depressed, as you can be, because he was not able to function very well. So the practitioner calls me up and says I even treat him. I don't want him having a heart attack. In my office I said let's just. Normally a dose is 12 minutes, let's just treat him for five minutes and stay in the room the whole time. Patient goes home that night and this was basically two years ago has never had a heart attack since. No more heart attacks and everything has come back to life, everything, wow.

Speaker 2: 15:17

Just reporting the news to you. I'm not telling you all of you. Stop what you're doing and go see a red light expert because you're having heart attacks. I'm just telling you the news. Right, be foolish if you don't at least check it out, sure. So here's what I'm going to tell all of you. You no longer have an excuse to complain about any physical, physiological ailment at all. What you need to do is to try this medical grade bed that I'm going to be describing to you six times, that's three times a week for two weeks. Each dose is 12 minutes, just 12 minutes, and then see what happens at the end of that.

Speaker 2: 15:57

So here's how you can get your six visits, and what you're going to do is you're going to call an office closest to you. We have hundreds all over the country, although I will say there are some areas we don't have enough. We don't have bed near you If we don't talk to your health practitioner about getting one. Otherwise, I apologize, we don't have a bed near you, but all you have to do is go to the website trifectalightcom. Go to the Contact Us page On the left side. It says tell us about where you are and we'll find a location closest to you. We can't list all the locations for privacy reasons, but we can find a location closest to you and then go there, tell them that you heard about this on this podcast and tell them that they should give you a great deal for these six visits and the six visits if you don't see any change at all.

Speaker 2: 16:44

One of two things are going to have would have happened. One they neglected to plug the bed in the first place, which I'm sure that happens. Doubt if that's the issue. The other thing is, you're so far gone, so far along, that either it's going to take more than six visits or maybe it is irreversible. But that's so rare, so rare, and I don't care what you have Dementia, parkinson's, alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis, neuropathy, lyme disease, dialysis, diabetes.

Speaker 2: 17:17

Getting back to Lyme disease, we had this lady. Well, talk about Steve. Now I'm going to be sending you all these videos that you're welcome to send out to your audience. Wonderful these videos, and you know if they don't give you goosebumps at the end knowing how this is now going to be able to change this world. It can change the way healing occurs. That doesn't mean don't do the other things as well. If you're an acupuncturist, still do acupuncture. Just add this to your business. So I don't care what you have.

Speaker 2: 17:51

But let's talk about Lyme disease. So Steve contracted Lyme when he was 12 and it ruined his life. It just ruined his life. He couldn't have a career because he didn't know whether he was able to get out of bed some days. So everything sucked as far as he was concerned and he was depressed. So now I'm not going to tell you any more about it. I want you to watch this video His name is Steve, it's going to say Lyme disease on there and watch this video and see what happens to him and why.

Speaker 2: 18:16

I got goosebumps, not only from Arnett, who was having a heart attack, from Steve, and many, many more, including Jerisha, who had a stroke, I mean you know and Jessica, who had 16 unbelievably serious conditions. So what you do is you go to website left side, put in your information. We'll find a location closest to you, but if you're smart, in my opinion you might explore the possibility. I don't want to make it sound like very salesy here, so I'm going to say I apologize for saying if you're smart, I don't care. If you're smart or dumb doesn't matter, but you might explore the idea of getting a bed for your business If you have anything to do with the body. Now, this lights are so safe. In the 50 years that they've studied this technology, there has never been a recorded side effect. So you couldn't hurt somebody with this stuff if you tried.

Speaker 2: 19:05

And on the other side, with the world, contraindications. Contraindication means who should or should not use the bed. Technically, there really aren't any contraindications. You can get in the bed with, I told you, a defibrillator, pacemaker, metal implants, titanium, whatever. There are really basically no contraindications. But there is one universal contraindication and that's a pregnant woman. And why is that? If that baby comes out anything other than perfect, they're going to want to sue everybody and anybody that was in the neighborhood. So we tell everybody, you know what, just while she's pregnant, let's not be in that neighborhood. After delivery, especially if it's a C-section, get them into the bed right away and their recovery is going to be unbelievable. It's going to blow you away how much faster they're going to recover from a surgery, how they're going to recover from any injury, any issue at all.

Speaker 2: 19:59

Wonderful website, but there's another thing also that I want to explain to you. People think something's expensive or not expensive in the world of health and they have no clue how expensive it is to be sick. You don't have a clue about that. If you're thinking, anything I'm going to be describing is expensive, like typical office visit could be $100 to $200, but you have no idea what it costs to be sick, spend a week in a hospital.

Speaker 2: 20:27

There's a drug out there that one of my patients needed, one of many, but this one drug for ulcerative colitis and it's a drip. So it's a biologic, where they give you an IV and they drip it into your body over a one-hour period. I'm going to ask you a question Are you ready? How much do you think they charge the insurance company for that one-hour period? I'm going to ask you a question Are you ready? How much do you think they charge the insurance company for that one-hour drip? And then 7,000. You thought and quadruple it by four and what does that? Come to 28,000. And then double that. Oh, my goodness, they billed $55,000.

Speaker 1: 21:03

For an hour drip.

Speaker 2: 21:04

For one hour it billed $55,000. For an hour drip For one hour it might have been a one and a half hour drip, wow. What I'm saying to you is that, one, you have no clue how expensive it is to be sick and two, the competition on the other side is outrageous. The amount of money that can be made from drugs and surgery is so outrageous that natural healing and I've been in this industry since I was started school in 1975, is intense. We failed the world of medicine. Think about this.

Speaker 2: 21:34

When I graduated and started chiropractic in 1978, my partner and I, we made a commitment that would help society. We would help the world to have less reliance on drugs, and we failed miserably. Now they're advertising, because I guess they think their doctors are not smart enough. They're advertising to the patient to then tell their doctor what drug they should have. Right, this is obscene and should not take place. How could they? Then the patient's going to go in? Uh-uh, I don't want the blue one, I want the purple one, because I watched that commercial and I know better. But what it can all tell you in the commercial is that the generic versus that pill that they're trying to advertise, you could cost many times more than what the generic version is, whatever. So I don't really want to get in this debate about drugs and all that stuff. I'm just telling you we failed miserably my partner and I in trying to get people to take less drugs and quite frankly, it's much worse than we've ever dreamed possible quite frankly, it's much worse than we've ever dreamed possible.

Speaker 1: 22:41

Yeah, can you tell us a little bit about the mechanism of action with red light therapy?

Speaker 2: 22:44

I'm going to cost you something Okay, and here's what it's going to cost. So we talked about the website and you know you're going to go to on the right side of that website, on the contact us page on the right side is going to give you the opportunity to look and explore if it's something smart to use in your business. Remember, it's so safe that you don't need a medical license. You don't have to be even a health practitioner. You just have to have a good knowledge of the body, or someone you hire has to have a decent knowledge about the body. That's about it. So if you're an accountant and want to do this, we had an accountant that wanted to do this and that was very challenging. They didn't know anything. It didn't work out so great. So I'm just suggesting now there are a few of you out there it's usually about 5% to 8% of our population will actually explore the possibility of having it for home use, and we have a less expensive home use bed, but we also have the pristine high-end bed that we call the Pro450, and that's the one that's right here. Stinks cost about $1,400 a month to lease. Less expensive bed is going to be under $1,000 to lease. Okay, so now let's talk about the mechanism. Well, you know what I also want to talk about the YouTube channel. You're going to find over 130 wonderful videos, really excellent videos that were done. Some of them are interviews with me and other people. So if you go to YouTube and put in the at sign and put a Trifecta Light official, that'll get you to our YouTube channel and you're going to absolutely love those videos, I think. Okay, I'm also, as I said, going to send you videos that you can send out to the people that are a little bit more raw. They're not as edited as the one on YouTube, but they're going to give you even more information on there. Okay, so now let's go over the mechanism Now, before I even tell you that I liken well-being to a candle that burns bright all the way from the beginning down to the bottom and then sputters out and dies.

Speaker 2: 24:46

That's what I'm thinking about, what health and well-being should be like, and that's not what's happening with most people. With most people, the last 10, 20 years of their life ain't so great. They're invalids. They can't feed themselves, they can't wash themselves and they can't wipe themselves, and I've had patients come to my office that I had to keep it to myself. But I would say to myself please, god, don't let me wind up like that. And the only reason you people out there if there's any of you that are not taking care of yourself is because you're not scared enough.

Speaker 2: 25:25

If you knew what you're doing today, what impact it's going to have on you when you're older, you wouldn't do it. So true, or what you're not doing, you would do it. And it really isn't complicated. It's about smart exercise, which is just three times a week, 30 minutes a shot, mostly cardiovascular. You can do more, but it's more important that you do it for the rest of your life than you do it for a couple of weeks going. I'm going to do three hours every day. Well, they'll do it for a short time and then quit.

Speaker 2: 25:55

Try to integrate this into your life, whether it's at a gym, whether it's outside, whatever you're going to do, you should be targeting for the rest of your life. Three times a week, 30 minutes a shot, okay. And then a smart eating. You want a non-inflammatory, smart diet, which everybody already knows what you shouldn't eat, you know you shouldn't have fried foods and stuff like that. And, from a dieting point of view, you want to stay away from the starchy carbohydrates, simple sugars, sodas and alcohol. Of those four things, alcohol is the worst, because alcohol will add to your weight like you can't believe. Alcohol is the absolute worst in that whole scenario.

Speaker 1: 26:35

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:36

All right. So now, getting back to the mechanism, there are two completely separate mechanisms. One is completely about fat loss. That's on the left side here, okay, and on the right side is everything else, starting from the top of your head, working your finger, all the way down, everything in between, every organ, every gland, your eyes, your mouth, everything in between, every organ, every gland, your eyes, your mouth, everything. That's the other mechanism. So we're going to talk about the easy one first, and that's fat loss, which was discovered about. The idea that it worked was about 14 years ago, but how it worked was more recent, and what they discovered is that there's an element of red only red that will actually change the permeability of the fat cell wall. Okay, explain what that means. It makes the fat cell wall more porous and it allows the contents of the fat cell to leak out into the interstitial tissue, into, I should just say, the surrounding tissue, and with our unique protocol, we move the fat away from the fat cells and eventually to the liver for use or elimination.

Speaker 1: 27:43

Okay.

Speaker 2: 27:44

Nice and simple, and so does it damage the fat cells? No, is it temporary? Yes, what I mean by that is that the fat cell wall is porous for about a day and then it's back to normal. Okay, and not all the fat contents are going to be leaked out, just some of it. That's why repetition is necessary. We leak out some, process it. What you will do is get it eventually to the liver for use, elimination. Come in again, do it again. Now, if you pair that with a smart diet that I already described to some degree starchy carbohydrates, simple sugar, sodas and alcohol, and not eating the stuff that you already know is not great for you. But we're not talking about such a restrictive diet that you won't continue for the rest of your life. The word diet is wrong, because diet implies the beginning and an end. The day you stop that diet, you're going to put all that weight back on. In fact, they've shown that 95% of people on a typical diet, when they stop within a year, they put all their weight back on.

Speaker 1: 28:48

So, as long as you're using this in correlation with good dietary habits and exercise habits, no alcohol. It's just going to speed up the process of getting lean.

Speaker 2: 29:01

Correct.

Speaker 1: 29:01

I mean.

Speaker 2: 29:02

The point I want to make is that it does require you to help out a little bit. You're not going to be able to just get drunk every night and overeat, but when you overeat it naturally is going to go to fat. That's what the body does. It's going to preserve the extra calories to save the day that one day we're all going to be in some starvation mode. So you'll have extra fat. Well, that's nearly doesn't happen anymore. So I mean, we talk about fat another time.

Speaker 2: 29:30

But you know I'm an expert at fat loss, yeah, so I started when my mother was an executive of Weight Watchers before I was a teenager, where we never had a good thing to eat again. But I learned a lot. I use a lot that I learned in my practice. So now I want to talk to you about the mechanism. That really is what I'm all about. It's about the healing aspect. So I'm not making claims about healing. That I can do. I'm making claims. And it's all over the internet. If you go to Google Scholar again, scholargooglecom put in the word the phrase red light therapy and then put in whatever condition, whatever issue, you'll see all the research has already been done. Okay, so let's talk about the mechanism, this glorious, miraculous mechanism. It is mostly the near infrared. That's the cold therapy. It doesn't literally get cold, but it doesn't get hot. That's why they called it cold therapy. Heat is the enemy, as I said.

Speaker 2: 30:32

So what they have found is that there are certain elements of sunlight that are unbelievably healing. They've known as a society, we've known about this for hundreds of years. They would tell people, go out and sit in the sun and it will be helpful for whatever condition you have. But imagine taking that glorious sunlight and magnifying it many times and driving it deep into someone's body. So what we found, as I mentioned before when we went from the smaller units to the bed, is what we learned is that when you bathe the whole body at the same time, head to toe, left and right, front and back, inside and out, affecting as many cells as possible, that's where there's big differences and it's about sunlight. But what we've done is taken these four elements of sunlight no UV light, no blue light, none of the lights that could be complicated and make problems for us, just red and near infrared and we drive that into the person's body.

Speaker 2: 31:30

And what they found was that those lights will affect the tissues of your body. So your whole body is made up of tissues. Every tissue is made up of cells and every cell has this critical organelle called mitochondria. The mitochondria is the reason why you breathe oxygen and eat food to create this unbelievably important molecule called ATP. So the mitochondria is called the powerhouse of the body and that ATP is called the energy currency of the body. And that ATP is called the energy currency of the body.

Speaker 2: 32:01

And if you don't have the right amount of ATP in your body, you will struggle to disease and eventually death. If you have the right amount of ATP, you will thrive and do much better. Not excessive amounts. We get just the right amount because the body is so smart. We call it innate intelligence. We give the body what it needs. Get rid of any interference and get the heck out of the way and let the body do its thing. So we're going to bring the mitochondria back to normal using these four elements of light, driving it deep into the person's body so as many of these cells are affected as possible.

Speaker 2: 32:42

What they found was that, ironically, the mitochondria is not affected by the sunlight. It's something else. And what they found was that there's an element in the mitochondria called cytochrome C oxidase. Okay, and that is a chromophore. A chromophore means it's sensitive to light energy. It can be affected by light energy not the mitochondria itself, but the cytochrome C oxidase stimulates or gets stimulated by the sunlight, which then stimulates the mitochondria to come back to life.

Speaker 2: 33:15

Okay, and that's where we can take somebody who's struggling mightily with all these things that I already mentioned, even Parkinson's, dementia, alzheimer's. We had a lady that her Parkinson's was severe and her dementia was outrageous, so much so that they couldn't deal with her at home anymore. But as a last resort, they decided let's try red light therapy. Now, again, it takes a full body exposure to this. So you want to do head to toe, and that's why we're telling you to get involved with full body therapy. I don't mind the mask, I don't mind the helmets, I don't mind the pads we make those but seeing what the full body exposure does has turned us all. Everybody in my company have become bed crazy. One of my staff members made this for me because this is my attitude, can you see?

Speaker 1: 34:07

this Get in the bed. It's a mug.

Speaker 2: 34:10

That's what I tell people Just get in the bed. It has no side effects. It couldn't hurt you if you tried. So just get in the bed. But at any rate, moving right along there you are stimulating the cytochrome c-oxidate to then stimulate the mitochondria to come back to health and then everything can start being affected by that and that's why it's so global. Someone says it sounds like snake oil. You're telling me every tissue in the body, every cell, every organ, every gland, everything could be affected by this. And I have to apologize and say yeah, because every part of your body is made up of cells and every cell has the mitochondria. Every mitochondria has a cytochrome C oxidase and when we stimulate that it brings the mitochondria back to health.

Speaker 1: 34:59

So what about if someone was just suffering from fatigue?

Speaker 2: 35:02

Okay, well, you're asking a really general question. Yes, what could cause fatigue? There are an infinite number of things, right? If you're talking about somebody who's doing the same activity they've done all their life and now they can barely get out of bed or whatever, then this bed will change their life. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, it's unbelievable. They bring them back to energy.

Speaker 2: 35:27

But why would somebody have fatigue? Could it be a chronic fatigue syndrome? Could it be that they're diabetic and they don't even know it, that their pancreas is not functioning right? Does the fatigue happen after they eat? So there are probably 100 questions to ask them to answer that.

Speaker 2: 35:44

So even if you get somebody to doing better with red light therapy but they go home and undo it by their habits, by whatever, it's not going to be sustainable, sure. So we need somebody's help, and that means being smart about what they eat, what I would tell any of our practitioners. Get a food diary from the patient, a two-week food diary, and follow along on what they're consuming how much water are they drinking, what kind of sodas and alcohol, and what are they doing and how. And I always tell people one of the most key questions you have to ask is how important is this to you? So you know there are some you would think well, why would somebody go to a doctor's office when it's not very important to them? Well, sometimes they're dragged along by a husband or a wife or a mother or a father or whatever, and they're not there for themselves for the weight loss, for the healing or whatever. And they're not there for themselves for the weight loss, for the healing or whatever. There are some people that don't care and again, I told you why they don't care is because they don't realize what they're doing to their future self.

Speaker 2: 36:51

Right, I used to teach a class will you be dancing when you're 80? And I changed that because it was a zero. So will you be dancing when you're 75? And the point is are you going to be an invalid in a wheelchair where you can't feed yourself or any of that stuff? I don't want that for myself. So I'm not the most disciplined person. I'm more scared than I am disciplined At school. I exercise three times a week, I get in the bed three times a week and I eat pretty smart, you know. I mean I want people to understand that to deny yourself completely is not reasonable. You're not sustained, you're going to get kicked off. You can never have this or you can't have that. Just have a lot less of that crap, a lot less of the cake and stuff. You know, it's a simple sugars and starches. One of my mentors taught us about. This was many years ago, when people didn't realize that that a bowl of pasta is consumed by your body or is looked at by your body like a bowl of sugar.

Speaker 2: 37:56

You wouldn't eat a bowl of sugar. But if you're eating a bowl of pasta, you can do it occasionally, but if you're doing it regularly, that pasta gets converted to glucose too quickly and the glucose creates a diabetic surge or a glucose surge that freaks the body out. And if that happens when you're younger and you can get away with it, fine. But what happens eventually? You keep weakening your pancreas to the point where you wind up pre-diabetic, if not diabetic. And then I'm just leading to the answer that you asked me of. There's an infinite answer to that question about fatigue. And as people get older, their thyroid gets a little screwy and the bed can make a huge difference Huge. You can't complain anymore, none of you. You got to try the bed six times and that's it. And after six visits on that same website, the Contact Us page on the TryTakeTheLightcom page on the bottom of that Contact Us is just a general ask contact us and send me a note whether it worked or not for you Six visits, because I have not heard many people where it did not work. Now, so much the thumb. We're not growing the thumb back, just know that. But if you have a really good practitioner, for example, someone comes in now. This is an analogy. But if they come in with an equivalent of an arrow in their shoulder and we put them in the bed and don't get the stupid arrow out of there, it's not going to be a good idea. So one of the things we want to do is get the arrow out, get the problem underlying it.

Speaker 2: 39:34

I teach classes on how to sit, how to stand, how to sleep, beds, pillows, chairs, car seat shoes. It's the Olympics, people, you are in the Olympics and if you were in the Olympics, you would have the perfect equipment and know how to use that equipment perfectly, so you would run the fastest, jump the highest. Well, you're in the Olympics, why not? I mean, if you care enough about yourself and it's not even today's you're not caring about today's self, you're caring about that person. Can you hear it in the background crying? Would you please take better care of yourself? Yeah, you are 75, 80, 85, that you are not a mess and not a burden on society and not having fun.

Speaker 1: 40:17

You want to have fun. So back to increased ATP. You know I did some studying prior to this podcast. I saw it then increases nitric oxide.

Speaker 2: 40:30

Exactly.

Speaker 1: 40:31

Tell us, how that helps.

Speaker 2: 40:32

So it also helps. Well, nitric oxide is a great stimulator of circulation in your body. People take nitric oxide by a pill. Nitric oxide is very important in the body, and so we've seen increase in nitric oxide. You're going to see a lot of other things being stimulated, so I just wanted to talk about the eyes, for example.

Speaker 2: 40:53

So when someone gets in the bed, they keep their eyes closed and their mouth open. Now, why the eyes closed? And I'm saying that in lieu of wearing the goggles. I don't want you to wear the goggles, if you don't mind. If you wear the goggles, we're not going to be able to get that glorious effect into your eye. So if you keep your eyes open, it's just very annoying. Imagine taking a flashlight, staring at it on. It's not going to damage your eyes, but it's annoying. These lights in our bed are very strong, so you want to make sure that you get in the bed. You can open your eyes a little bit, blink here. Well, that's interesting, but it's not going to damage it, it's just annoying. So keep your eyes closed. You're wondering. Well, you know, do I want the eyelid to get in the way it can get through your skull to get to your brain. I don't think the eyelid's really going to be a challenge for the lights to get through, okay, so why do you want to get the light into your eyes and into your mouth?

Speaker 2: 41:51

So let's talk about the eyes. Think of anything if you know about the eye macular degeneration, macular edema, floaters in the eye. Floaters will be typically gone within two weeks Wow, or less. We had a guy that had a floater that was so large that it was blocking completely the vision. Usually most people will talk about like little nets that are floating around and it's annoying, but they could still see. He couldn't see out of one eye because the floater was so severe and that's gone after just a couple of visits. Floaters uveitis we had a lady that had uveitis, which is a swelling in the eye. Now, normally this pressure in the eye should be around 10 to 12. And hers was 180. And left untreated, she would eventually go blind in that eye. And left untreated, she would eventually go blind in that eye. So the treatment for that is an injection right into the eye, which is extremely effective. Stressful, yeah, painful and expensive. Guess how much that one injection cost.

Speaker 1: 42:54

No idea $5,000. Wow.

Speaker 2: 42:57

The injection. So, and it's painful and it's, as he would put it, anxiety inducing, is what he said. And then, after just a relative, I think two weeks of treatment and she doesn't have that uveitis anymore. Wow, and she also had also had 16 very serious conditions, including three forms of psoriasis gluteal psoriasis, plaque psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis. She had heart issues, thyroid issues. She had kidney stones Now, one kidney stone could drive you crazy, so painful and she had hundreds of kidney stones as a side effect of a drug that she was taking for migraines, which has been taken off the market, but the end result was that she had many migraines.

Speaker 2: 43:47

So when you get a chance to watch this video again her name is Jessica Watch the video of the 16 serious conditions that she had and how she spent most of her life going to doctors and getting injections and drugs and whatever. She doesn't need any of that stuff anymore. Right, that's not saying you're all going to have that great experience, but at minimum it's going to help. Sure, minimum, it's going to help. Minimum, it's going to help.

Speaker 1: 44:12

So that tells me it helps with autoimmune issues, things like that.

Speaker 2: 44:18

In fact that's what she talks about is autoimmune in general, so any autoimmune disease, including rheumatoid arthritis. We had a lady. Her rheumatoid arthritis was so severe that she couldn't get home. She couldn't get into her house because she couldn't use the key. So she would come home, knock on the neighbor's door who would let her in.

Speaker 1: 44:37

Oh goodness.

Speaker 2: 44:38

Now, prior to this she was a professional dancer early in her life. She was an instructor in her midlife and now she's struck down with rheumatoid arthritis and it ruined her life and that's been reversed. So she's easily able to get use the key to get into her home. She's doing phenomenally better. She's not going to be a professional athlete, a professional dancer, but she can dance again. It's a big difference in someone's life.

Speaker 2: 45:07

So you're talking about the trifecta word. That name comes from face fat and healing. That's why one of our staff members came up with the idea Well, it's like winning the trifecta, and so we decided that that model that year was going to be called the trifecta. But it's also about men's health. When you guys watch the video by Arnett and see what he says about erectile dysfunction. When you watch the videos about women's health, that's in there where women are talking about less painful periods. They're talking about ovarian cysts, fading, things like that.

Speaker 2: 45:43

And then I want to finish up, if I may, with athletes. If you're an athlete and want to perform better, when you get in the bed you will perform better. I had a guy call me up and said I can swim now twice the distance I used to be able to swim because his stamina is so much better, and that's why we're, with athletic teams, including the NBA, including Olympic Training Center, including several different athletic facilities, high-end athletic facilities that are experiencing remarkable results with using this bed. I mean, it's just been phenomenal. So, if you want to perform better and if you're a professional athlete and you're not using the bed and the guy next to you is, he's going to win, so get in the bed.

Speaker 1: 46:28

Why is the Pro 450 light bed superior to anything on the market?

Speaker 2: 46:34

Well, there are only a few medical grade lights. The medical grade by definition means very strong, without getting hot. Okay, and any other medical grade bed I know out there is more than twice the price of our bed. Well, about twice the price of our bed, okay. What makes it the best is the following medical grade lights that don't get hot, but customizable, so someone who's 80 pounds doesn't get the same dose that someone who's 400 pounds, 400 pounder, with all that flesh, can absorb a lot of this light energy without it getting hot.

Speaker 2: 47:09

Remember, heat is the enemy. Also, the lights come really close to your body. You want the light right on your body. As you come away from the lights, you lose power exponentially. You want the lights as close to the body as possible.

Speaker 2: 47:22

So we talked about being able to customize the treatment. And then the last thing and there's many others, but the last important thing is the fact that you can pulse the wave. So if some of your people in your audience know about healing frequencies or resonating frequencies, so our lights can resonate. Different frequencies will resonate with different tissues and when in the training we include 32 things with the purchase of the bed, and including that's the basic training, advanced training, a whole bunch of other stuff, and so all those things that we include allow the person to know how to use the bed perfectly and, in particular, how to customize the treatment with frequency and power, and we're going to be affecting the power both of the red and the near infrared. You can affect both of them and you can also affect the top canopy separately from the lower bed, which is also important, and we go over that in the actual program that we teach.

Speaker 1: 48:18

Interesting. So what would the end user, the patient or the customer and I know there's a wide reference or wide range, but what would they expect to pay per session?

Speaker 2: 48:29

I had 12 practices and my Beverly Hills office recharged more than anywhere else. Sure, so location has something to do with it. The second thing is the severity of the problem and the third thing is the degree of the person providing the service. Okay, but I don't want to come out with pricing, because then they're mad at me. They say why did you say price? Mine's more, mine is less. I can't deal with that one, yeah.

Speaker 1: 48:55

I do. That was risky. Sometimes you don't have to say everything. Right, right Gotcha. Tell us about the book Illuminated Healing.

Speaker 2: 49:05

So I don't make a dime off of this. It's a labor of love. It's 280 pages of really quality. I wrote a good book and the editors slash publishers that team made it sing. I mean, it's gorgeous. And so especially the first series of chapters will go over the essence and understanding about red light therapy, and you can get it in three formats. You can get it as an audible so you can listen to me for eight something hours. Get it as a Kindle so you can watch it on and read it on your computer. Or you can get the actual book. Just go to Amazon and put in the word Illuminated Healing. Okay, I would tell you to put in my name. But that name Rothschild is famous and infamous at the same time. There are some poor people out there that think that I own the world.

Speaker 1: 49:58

You own a portion of it anyway, don't you Not really?

Speaker 2: 50:03

It would be a portion, it would be very tiny. I mean, I'm successful, but we're talking about billionaires in this case and I'm not in that arena. Well have we?

Speaker 1: 50:12

covered everything, Dr Carl, you know we're talking about billionaires in this case, and I'm not in that arena.

Speaker 2: 50:15

Well, have we covered everything, dr Carl? I think so. I'm looking through my list of things that I, because there are many things to go over. I think we did a good job. I don't want to drive people nuts with this. When you get the book you'll learn more. If you go on the website and have questions, just ask me. Sure, you go on the website and have questions, just ask me. Our targets are the entire health industry, the entire fitness industry, the entire beauty industry. The face is going to look fantastic, the skin is going to look great in general, the mental health industry, the weight loss industry and athletes.

Speaker 2: 50:47

Getting back to mental health, you wouldn't be surprised that the most challenging practitioners out there are the psychologists you know, even more so than the medical doctors Well, not orthopedic, I mean surgeons. They're out of the loop, so I don't even deal with them. But in almost every case with the mental health industry, they say, ah, it's a placebo effect and ah, it doesn't work. I don't know what they're thinking. If you had two mental health practitioners on either side of the walkway and this guy has our bed and this one doesn't, this guy's going to put this guy out of business. Sure, because that's how much it helps mental health.

Speaker 2: 51:27

I had a lady write me a note. She said if this is how everyone else feels every day, I can't believe I've been missing out all this time. She had not seen joy in her life for many, many years and now she does. Wow, what else do you need? I mean these psychologists. If you're a psychologist out there and I know how stubborn you guys can be just try it. Send your difficult patients to a be. Just try it. Send your difficult patients to a local facility and try it. They want to still promote the drugs and stuff like that. What am I supposed to do with that? And, by the way, I don't put anything in my body that doesn't belong there. Chiropractors are not about putting anything in the body that doesn't belong there or yanking anything out that does belong there, unless there's absolutely no other option.

Speaker 1: 52:14

Right. So the end user or the customer can, it will be beneficial to go to trifectalightcom, but also anyone that owns a medical practice, a med spa. We run the gamut here, maybe minus surgeons, but they also can go to trifectalightcom.

Speaker 2: 52:35

Correct, absolutely To look at a purchase and then communicate with me. So I have a wide, great staff that will handle most of the questions about purchasing or anything like that. On that contact us page on the right side is about whether you want to buy it for yourself or for your business. So there is a home use model that I don't own a lot. It's smaller, not quite as strong as the 450, but we still get great feedback about it. That's the Pro 300. And it's about $10,000 less than the 450. The 450 is more robust, stronger, to be honest with you, so it's going to be for your business.

Speaker 2: 53:14

Okay, I have a lot of people that buy the 450s for a home because they recognize how expensive it is to be sick and they want to avoid that possibility. Sure, and they talk to me. When I interview them, the term that comes up several times is the word life altering. That's I love that. Or they'll say thank you for giving me my life back. Yeah, I love that. That's why I started in 1970s. That's what I wanted to do. I wanted to help as many people as I possibly could.

Speaker 1: 53:46

Yeah, that's probably a great place to end. Thank you so much, dr Rothschild, for being on the podcast today and enlightening us about light therapy. All the details will be in the show notes.

Speaker 2: 54:01

And I understand your bunch of information.

Speaker 1: 54:03

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